Articles | Volume 18, issue 22
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-18-6569-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Detection of Multi-Modal Doppler Spectra – Part 2: Evaluation of the Detection Algorithm and Exploring Characteristics of Multi-modal Spectra Using a Long-term Dataset
Download
- Final revised paper (published on 17 Nov 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 24 Feb 2025)
Interactive discussion
Status: closed
Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor
| : Report abuse
-
RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-672', Anonymous Referee #1, 29 Mar 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Sarah Wugofski, 25 May 2025
-
RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-672', Anonymous Referee #2, 03 Apr 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Sarah Wugofski, 25 May 2025
Peer review completion
AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
AR by Sarah Wugofski on behalf of the Authors (28 Jul 2025)
Author's response
Author's tracked changes
Manuscript
ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (19 Aug 2025) by Alexis Berne
RR by Anonymous Referee #1 (25 Aug 2025)
RR by Anonymous Referee #2 (01 Sep 2025)
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (03 Sep 2025) by Alexis Berne
AR by Sarah Wugofski on behalf of the Authors (14 Sep 2025)
Author's response
Author's tracked changes
EF by Polina Shvedko (16 Sep 2025)
Manuscript
ED: Publish as is (18 Sep 2025) by Alexis Berne
AR by Sarah Wugofski on behalf of the Authors (24 Sep 2025)
Manuscript
Review of Wugofski and Kumjian, AMTD 2025 (amt-2025-672)
General comments to the manuscript https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-672
In the study titled “Detection of Multi-Model Doppler Spectra. Part 2: Evaluation of the Detection Algorithm and Exploring Characteristics of Multi-Modal Spectra Using a Long-term Dataset” by S. Wugofski and M. Kumjian, the multi-modal radar Doppler spectrum detection algorithm developed in Part 1 was applied to a 3-yr-dataset of Ka-band vertically-pointing Doppler cloud radar observations at the North Slope of Alaska. The authors set the found multi-modal layers into context with height, depth, and temperature of these layers and used ERA-5 temperature data to assess which microphysical process could be responsible for the multi-modal events. Statistical results related to multi-modal layer detection as well as three detailed case studies are presented. The study closes with a short section on conclusions.
Recommendation:
I would suggest the manuscript to be published after major revisions considering the remarks below. The authors should address the following points:
General/Major comments:
While there is an advantage of only relying on data from one instrument, KAZRs are usually not operated on a stand-alone basis but deployed with other instrumentation and the manuscript would greatly benefit from using these to substantiate the conclusions. – Currently, the potential microphysical processes leading to the observed multi-modal radar Doppler spectra like primary ice production, growth of column or plates, and Hallett-Mossop rime splintering are here only assessed based on ERA-5 temperature data instead of making use of the extensive ARM instrumentation suite (MWR, depolarization lidar, etc.). Adding observational evidence from other instrumentation would be very beneficial in interpretation of the temperature-only based hypothesis of microphysical processes. For example, to substantiate the hypothesis of potential occurrence of Hallett-Mossop rime-splintering, variables like liquid water path as derived from microwave radiometer observations help to see if liquid water was available for riming as prerequisite for rime-splintering. The points made in the manuscript would be much stronger if additional information from other instruments are added.
Line 289 - 290: In line 289 it is correctly stated that at T between -3 and -8°C both, primary ice nucleation of columnar ice crystals or Hallett-Mossop-rime splintering can occur. Please include the possibility of primary ice nucleation in this T-range in the abstract and in line 299 + line 314 etc. as well instead of only restricting to Hallett-Mossop-rime splintering. Furthermore, Section 5.1 should also be labeled accordingly.
Line 299, 444 and elsewhere: Dendritic growth temperature zone employed here seems very narrow, often -20 to -10 °C are used instead -12 to -8°C, see e.g. https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/22/11795/2022/ and references therein.
In line 233 dendritic growth zone temperature regime is reported as -18 to -12°C – use consistent T-ranges throughout the manuscript.
Section 3.1 (Case Verification) I think the study would benefit from adding two additional parameters “distance of multi-modal layer top from cloud top” (to see where the multimodalities occur with respect to cloud top) as well as cloud depth.
Line 190-194: Please explain why you choose to set monthly flag count into context with ERA-5 monthly thermodynamic, kinematic, and microphysical variables – Fig.4 shows that high flag counts are mostly related to single continuous events. Why not analyze the thermodynamic, kinematic, and microphysical variables for those events instead? Or instead contrast ERA-5 variables for flagged events vs. non-flagged cloudy periods? I struggle seeing the benefit of the correlation of the monthly multi-modal flag count with ERA-5 variables as it is presented unless it is set into context with existing literature, e.g. on seasonal mixed-phase cloud occurrence at the NSA site etc.
Minor comments:
Throughout the text, it would be helpful to always state which “flag” (Multi-modal flag/LDR flag) is meant to avoid confusion (e.g. Line 444f “the algorithm detected flags that aligned with the multi-modal layers”.)
Line 10: please check the sentence, what does the word “verifying” refer to?
Line 16 and elsewhere: Clearly state where you refer to spectral or integrated LDR
Line 55: How does the manual verification work?
Line 76: replace “being a secondary mode” with “containing a secondary mode”
Line 80: Motivate why you choose two hours as minimum threshold for case identification? – Depending on cloud type and cloud lifetime, microphysical processes with pronounced multi-modal Doppler spectra occur on much shorter time scales.
Line 88: Explain how this consolidation of cases is done. Manually?
Line 230-231: Please give references for the statement that “primary mode” refers to the faster falling one and “secondary mode” to the slower falling one. In KAZR terms, I think primary mode is the one with the highest reflectivity independent of fall velocity.
Line 234: Rephrase: “The distinction between liquid droplets and columnar ice/needles” …
Line 282: add “columnar” before ice crystals
Line 352: replace “profile” with “atmosphere”
Line 431: Explain why would you limit the algorithm to vertically-pointing Ka-band radar observations and don’t propose to also use it for other radar bands (X-/W-/G-band)?
Line 434: add “columnar” before ice
Line 448: As stated above, I strongly suggest including additional remote-sensing observations existing at ARM KAZR sites
Comments on Figures:
Fig. 1: Please add time-height panels of KAZR reflectivity, mean Doppler velocity, and spectrum width to contextualize the two case studies for which the flag-criteria depicted are matched. In this way the readers can also see if vertical spectrograms are applicable or if Doppler spectrum evolution seems rather plausible along slanted fall streaks.
Fig 1: Is Oct 31 2023 (title) or 2024 (caption) shown?
Section 5: Add time-height plots of KAZR reflectivity, MDV, spectrum width and LDR for all three presented case studies to contextualize the presented height spectrograms.
Fig 10: What are the horizonal lines in panel d, e, f? (also in Fig. 12)
Fig 10: extend your x-axis to lower velocities to capture the entire observed Doppler spectra