Articles | Volume 19, issue 19
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-19-6415-2026
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New operational perspective to identify aerosols and hydrometeors in real-time with a pioneering algorithm (CONIOPOL) based on single-wavelength polarization lidar (CL61)
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General comments:
The manuscript presents a method on target categorization of various aerosol, cloud and precipitation types with a focus to aerosol types, utilizing the attenuated backscatter coefficient (ATB) and volume depolarization ratio (VDR) at 910 nm from a Vaisala CL61 ceilometer located at Uccle, Belgium. The classification is based on fixed thresholds defined in a decision tree. The results are then evaluated using aerosol mixing ratios from CAMS model for the various aerosol types. The manuscript is timely and relevant, polarization-based classification algorithms are genuinely useful and single-wavelength lidars with polarization capability are increasingly utilized by the community. Despite the fundamental limitations of this approach, using 1 ATB + 1 VDR for target classification can still provide long‑term insights and help build a coherent climatology of aerosols and clouds, which can be further applied to observational networks such as EUMETNET E‑PROFILE and ACTRIS. The manuscript is well organized, supported by relevant literature, and offers a comprehensive discussion of the algorithm’s strengths and limitations. Nonetheless, several passages are overly speculative, and some sections contain unnecessary repetition. The manuscript is suited for publication in Atmospheric Measurement Techniques and can be published after addressing the comments/questions listed below.
Specific comments:
1. The algorithm uses a decision tree to classify the various targets. At the moment, there is no inclusion or even discussion on the uncertainties associated with the ATB and VDR, the two essential parameters used in the classification, and their effect in the classification. These parameters undoubtedly influence the results of the target classification, and therefore, a comprehensive sensitivity analysis is needed. The authors mention that calibrating the CL61 instrument is essential. This can be done within 5-10 % uncertainty (O’Connor et al., 2004, Hopkins et al., 2018, Looschelders et al., 2025). In addition, temporal averaging (and potentially vertical averaging) modifies the measured parameters and may interfere with the hard‑set thresholds used in the classification. This raises two important questions: How sensitive is the classification to calibration biases and temporal averaging, and which parameter is the most sensitive? The manuscript would benefit from explicit recommendations and a clear discussion of its limitations from this perspective.
O'Connor, E. J., A. J. Illingworth, and R. J. Hogan, 2004: A Technique for Autocalibration of Cloud Lidar. J. Atmos. Oceanic Technol., 21, 777–786, https://doi.org/10.1175/1520-0426(2004)021<0777:ATFAOC>2.0.CO;2.
Hopkin, E., Illingworth, A. J., Charlton-Perez, C., Westbrook, C. D., and Ballard, S.: A robust automated technique for operational calibration of ceilometers using the integrated backscatter from totally attenuating liquid clouds, Atmos. Meas. Tech., 12, 4131–4147, https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-12-4131-2019, 2019.
Looschelders, D., A.Christen, S.Grimmond, et al. 2025. “Inter-Instrument Variability of Vaisala CL61 Lidar-Ceilometer's Attenuated Backscatter, Cloud Properties and Mixed-Layer Height.” Meteorological Applications32, no. 5: e70088. https://doi.org/10.1002/met.70088.
2. CAMS is used for validation, but the manuscript does not include studies showing known mismatches between CAMS and lidar measurements in smoke and dust cases. Furthermore, the comparison is carried out by partitioning the atmosphere into two regions: one below 1 km and one above from which conclusions are drawn. I would suggest including a more detailed and statistical meaningful comparison between the model aerosol mixing rations and the lidar-based target classification. One possible improvement would be to include heatmaps showing the hit/miss ratios for the different aerosol and cloud categories, add a seasonal comparison, and segment the atmosphere in more detail, for example, to capture the high-level clouds as well. Although it is difficult to find an aerosol target classification available for the validation, the authors could consider published long-term aerosol classifications within Europe from EARLINET-ACTRIS networks. Cloudnet could provide some insights into the cloud/precipitation typing. Have the authors considered using the target classification from the closest Cloudnet station?
3. Figure 1 appears rather early, without prior discussion of the choice and origin of the values shown, and before the requirements of the algorithm have been introduced. I recommend moving Figure 1 and the introduction of the typing scheme after Section 4.3.
4. Line 166: The minimum useful height in CL61 instrument is 40-50m above ground level according to Roininen et al. (2025) and Le et al., (2026) while there are a few studies reporting an artifact located between 80 and 150m that is not alwayspresent (Filioglou et al., 2025, Ve et al., 2026). How the selection of 33.6m is justified?
Roininen, R., Tuononen, M., Bircher-Adrot, S., Rüfenacht, R., O’Connor, E., Buxmann, J., Kotthaus, S., Van Hove, M., Diémoz, H., BELLINI, A., Fenner, D., Looschelders, D., Geiß, A., Wagner, F., and Mattis, I.: SOP CL61, Zenodo, https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14833761, 2025.
Le, V., O'Connor, E. J., Filioglou, M., and Vakkari, V.: Operational performance of the Vaisala CL61 ceilometer for atmospheric profiling, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-6331, 2026.
Filioglou, M., Tiitta, P., Shang, X., Leskinen, A., Ahola, P., Pätsi, S., Saarto, A., Vakkari, V., Isopahkala, U., and Komppula, M.: Lidar estimates of birch pollen number, mass, and CCN-related concentrations, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 25, 1639–1657, https://doi.org/10.5194/acp-25-1639-2025, 2025.
5. Line 173: The cloud base height reported in the ceilometer files uses the signal strength and strength of the change to determine the presence of a cloud. While in liquid clouds the condition is easily met, in optically thinner clouds, like cirrus, the cloud base height is shifted upwards, or the cloud can even go undetected if the visibility is not compromised (see Figure 7). In addition, a challenge which is also present in multi-wavelength lidar-based target classifications, is that intense aerosol layers (volcanic ash, dust, pollen) may be falsely classified as clouds, specifically as ice clouds. Although the authors chose to limit the analysis to the lowest 5 km, thereby excluding most high‑level clouds, it would be important to address the long‑term bias this constraint may introduce by the algorithm, if any. For example, in Figure 7 there are some high‑level clouds showing variable LDR values at 23.30 UTC with no detected cloud base. Nevertheless, the algorithm still classifies these bins as clouds. This should be clarified.
6. Figure 2: Could the authors clarify how many height bins within the liquid cloud layer were considered, and what altitudes are represented in the figure?
7. Line 215: Earlier in the text and again at the end of this paragraph, it is stated that the profiles are temporally averaged over 30s, yet Line 215 indicates that a 30min window is used for noise estimation. Why was such a long time interval chosen?
8. Lines 256-261: The gauge and CL61 observations have temporal resolutions of 1 h and 10 min, respectively. The authors attribute part of the discrepancy to these differences in temporal resolution. However, why were the CL61 observations not averaged to match the gauge’s 1‑hour resolution, rather than speculating about whether the mismatch arises from this source? A brief justification would strengthen the interpretation.
9. Section 4.4: LDR plays a central role in the classification, and published values at 910 nm are still limited. It would improve clarity in this section if the authors explicitly indicated which values refer to 910 nm and which are taken from studies at other wavelengths.
10. Line 289: Pollen types are also overlapping (Cao et al., 2010).
Cao, X., Roy, G. A., and Bernier, R.: Lidar polarization discrimination of bioaerosols, Opt. Eng., 49, 116201, https://doi.org/10.1117/1.3505877, 2010.
11. Line 295: How is the fresh vs aged smoke considered in the algorithm? Could the authors provide some insights?
12. Line 355: Which microphysical properties you are referring to?
13. Line 356: Are temperature profiles available for this case? The liquid layer is most probably in sub-freezing temperatures as there is a melting layer at around 3 km modifying the LDR values (see for example, at 4 and after 6 UTC). In this context, some solid precipitation is being misclassified as dust (around 4 UTC). Also, some thin precipitation bits are missed in the classification but that is inevitable given their high temporal variability.
14. Sect 6.1.1: It is unclear how the percentages are calculated and even more importantly why they can exceed 100%.
15. Line 472: ‘…..above 1000m’. What is the upper limit of this comparison? Is it the 5 km as mentioned earlier or higher?
16.Line 549: ‘The observed difference in total dust mixing ratio detected by CONIOPOL…atmospheric processes.’ The algorithm itself is not providing the dust mixing ratio. Rephrase the sentence.
Technical corrections:
The same acronym is defined more than once in the manuscript. For example, the LDR acronym has two different definitions. It is the Linear Depolarization Ratio (Line 15, Line 50, Line 87) or the Volume Linear Depolarization Ratio (Line 156). The Volume Linear Depolarization ratio is used here, and the text should be updated throughout to avoid any confusion with the particle linear depolarization ratio.
Line 39: Reference is missing
Line 46: Reference is missing
Line 93-94: Indeed! Two great examples are CALIOP and currently ATLID!
Line 185: “Calibrated in manufactory” → calibrated by the manufacturer or calibrated at the Vaisala factory.
Lines 309-401: Unclear sentence. Consider rephrasing.