Articles | Volume 19, issue 20
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-19-6661-2026
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A hybrid ice hydrometeor retrieval algorithm for submillimeter-wave radiometers in support of the PolSIR and PMM missions
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- Final revised paper (published on 22 Oct 2026)
- Preprint (discussion started on 08 Apr 2026)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-1348', Anonymous Referee #1, 02 Aug 2026
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Yuli Liu, 20 Sep 2026
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2026-1348', Anonymous Referee #2, 03 Aug 2026
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Yuli Liu, 20 Sep 2026
General comments
This manuscript presents an ice hydrometeor retrieval algorithm for sub-mm radiometers in support of the upcoming PolSIR and PMM satellite missions. The study proposes a hybrid BMCI-OEM retrieval framework that effectively integrates the advantages of both methods and evaluates its performance using both simulated and real observations. The topic is relevant to ongoing efforts in cloud and precipitation remote sensing, and the manuscript provides a detailed assessment of retrieval performance through a range of diagnostics and comparisons with independent radar retrievals.
Overall, I would like to commend the authors for the quality of this work. The manuscript is clearly written, the methodology is comprehensively described, and the analyses are thorough. I particularly appreciated the inclusion of the information-content analysis and retrieval diagnostics, especially the discussion based on the Shannon information content metric. I only have a few minor comments listed below and recommend publication after minor revisions.
Specific comments
(1) The manuscript highlights the advantages of the hybrid BMCI-OEM framework over a BMCI-only approach. Could the authors comment on the computational performance of the hybrid retrieval framework? While BMCI is described as computationally efficient, the OEM component requires iterative optimization and numerical Jacobian calculations. It would be useful to know how often the OEM step is triggered in practice and what additional computational cost it introduces compared to a BMCI-only retrieval.
(2) Please consider including the spatial resolution/footprint size of the various instruments used in the study, as well as the expected characteristics of the future missions (e.g., C²OMODO footprints <5 km have been reported in the literature). In addition, please provide the radar sensitivity (minimum detectable reflectivity, dBZ), as this information is essential for understanding the sensitivity of the reference retrievals.
(3) The manuscript demonstrates a notable sensitivity of the simulated brightness temperatures to the assumed ice particle habit. All simulations further assume randomly oriented particles and use only the first Stokes component. While polarization differences vanish at nadir, particle orientation can still modify the bulk scattering and extinction properties and therefore affect the simulated brightness temperatures. Given that the selected particle models are adopted from May et al. (2024), where orientation effects are also discussed, could the authors briefly comment on the potential implications of neglecting particle orientation for the retrieved ice microphysical properties? In addition, errors associated with neglecting particle orientation and polarization effects may become increasingly important at larger viewing angles, which are relevant for the planned cross-track satellite observations, particularly for future dual-polarization conically scanning radiometers.
(4) The current implementation assumes pencil-beam radiative transfer simulations and evaluates only nadir observations. Please provide information on the horizontal resolution of the simulations and discuss the extent to which the reported performance may be affected by the neglect of finite instrument footprints and off-nadir viewing geometries. Given that both PolSIR and PMM-C2OMODO are cross-track scanning radiometers, beam-filling effects may become increasingly important at submillimeter frequencies.
In this respect, please delete the word "slightly" from the following statement:
"All results presented here assume nadir-only observations: we acknowledge that both the PolSIR and PMM-C2OMODO radiometers are cross-track scanners, and results at off-nadir angles can be slightly different"
as differences are to be expected.
Suggestions for future work
The paper reports the largest residual brightness temperature discrepancies for the channels closest to 325 GHz and for the most strongly scattering cloud scenes. For future developments of the retrieval framework, the authors may wish to explore alternative particle model selections. For example, McEvoy et al. (2026, EGUsphere preprint) adopted the same particle habit framework as May et al. (2024), but introduced an additional ICON-hail particle model after identifying discrepancies between simulated and observed submillimeter brightness temperatures in strongly scattering deep convective conditions. In this context, analysing the joint behaviour of the 183 and 325 GHz channels (e.g., through scatterplot diagnostics) may provide a useful tool for evaluating and refining the choice of particle models used in the retrieval framework.
McEvoy, P., May, E., and Eriksson, P.: The Arctic Weather Satellite, introducing a new wavelength range for ice hydrometeor retrievals, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-2456, 2026.