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https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-18-4857-2025
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Review of “Simulations of Spectral Polarimeric Variables measured in rain at W-band” by I. Tsikoudi, A. Battaglia, C. Unal, and E. Marinou.
Summary: This manuscript outlines simulations of spectral polarimetric radar observations for rain. The single-scattering properties are calculated using the T-matrix method for spheroids with aspect ratios determined from previous empirical relations. The spectra are then simulated using two methods for randomly generating radar signals, and the spectral ZDR and backscatter differential phase are computed from these signals and compared to observations. The simulated power spectra are fit using gamma PSD parameters and a parameter for the wind speed variability due to turbulence. The general shapes of the simulated polarimetric spectra are similar to the measurements; the magnitudes show substantial differences.
General comments: This manuscript provides some interesting insight into using the spectral polarimetric radar measurements to better understand rain microphysics. However, there are some issues with this study that need to be addressed before it is acceptable for publication.
The first issue I have with this study is that the fitting of the PSD parameters and the air motion variability parameter (σt) are only done with respect to the spectral power. Therefore, the PSD parameters controlling the width of the particle spectrum may be compensated by the σt to best fit the spectrum. As such, the assumed σt may deviate substantially from the σt associated with the measurements, introducing errors into the comparisons with the spectral polarimetric variables. To address this issue, the authors may want to show the sensitivity of the spectral polarimetric variables to σt and the PSD parameters. Additionally, showing the range of PSD parameters and values of σt that have similar RMSE during the fitting process would clarify how well constrained these parameters are.
Similarly, the authors mention that the spheroid shape may not adequately represent the scattering of natural raindrops due to processes such as drop oscillations. However, a variety of spheroids with the same fall speed but different aspect ratios could better represent this process and provide evidence as to whether the assumption of fixed aspect ratios for a given particle size is responsible for the poor comparisons between the simulated and measured spectral ZDR. Randomly sampling aspect ratios for particles of the same fall speed would help demonstrate whether the broadening of the spectral polarimetric variables due to aspect ratio variability produces simulated spectra that are more consistent with the measurements.
Finally, there should be more discussion of simulating spectral polarimetric variables for radars with different transmission and reception strategies. For instance, fully polarimetric radars that transmit horizontal, receive horizontal and vertical, transmit vertical, and receive horizontal and vertical are processed differently than simultaneous transmit/receive radars. These differences could also explain some of the discrepancy between the observed and simulated spectral polarimetric variables. It is unclear what the transmission and reception strategy is for the radar observations presented in the manuscript. This information needs to be included to better understand how faithfully the method for simulating the spectral radar variables emulates the processing algorithm of the radar.
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References:
Wriedt, T. (2002), Using the T-Matrix Method for Light Scattering Computations by Non-axisymmetric Particles: Superellipsoids and Realistically Shaped Particles. Part. Part. Syst. Charact., 19: 256-268. https://doi.org/10.1002/1521-4117(200208)19:4<256::AID-PPSC256>3.0.CO;2-8