Articles | Volume 18, issue 19
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-18-5265-2025
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the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.Comparisons of polarimetric radio occultation measurements with WRF model simulation for tropical cyclones
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- Final revised paper (published on 10 Oct 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3708', Anonymous Referee #1, 21 Mar 2025
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AR by Shu-Ya Chen on behalf of the Authors (19 Jul 2025)
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (15 Aug 2025) by Peter Alexander

AR by Shu-Ya Chen on behalf of the Authors (20 Aug 2025)
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ED: Publish as is (21 Aug 2025) by Peter Alexander

AR by Shu-Ya Chen on behalf of the Authors (29 Aug 2025)
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This study explores the use of polarimetric radio occultation (PRO) measurements for validation and verification of different microphysics schemes implemented on a limited area atmospheric model (WRF). Model simulations of typhoon cases are used to simulate the actually observed PRO measurements using a forward observation operator that is similar to the one developed for ECMWF's IFS model previously reported in the AMT journal. The simulated PRO observations are compared to the actual PRO measurements to gain useful insight into which microphysics scheme performs well in simulating PRO observations. Such comparisons will be potentially very useful given the scarcity of measurements direct related to 3-dimensional distribution of hydrometeor particles, and this study is a nice demonstration of this potential.
One of the major difficulties in such a validation approach would be how to account for erroneous representation of the typhoon position in the model. The authors meticulously accounted for this error source by manually relocating the WRF model field so that the model's typhoon position matches with the position from best track data.
The manuscript is very well organized and written in clear language. Flow of logic is also clear and I see no problem in publishing the manuscript as is except for some minor editorial issues.
I just point out below some minor edits that the authors may find useful, but I do not think these are essential for acceptance of the manuscript.
Minor comments:
As I understand, when WRF model is initialized, hydrometeor variables are given zero values at the very beginning of the model integration. In such a "cold start" setting for hydrometeor variables, these variables need to be spun-up before any examination is made. It would be informative to readers who may be interested in replicating your experiments or similar experiments if this point (whether the hydrometeor variables were "cold-started") is explicitly explained in section 2.1.
If you did apply cold-start, then I assume the models are integrated for relatively long 18 hours to ensure the model's microphysics is spun-up. If this is the case, this point should also be explained in the manuscript.
Figure 8a: Looking from top to below on the right panel, the observed PAZ data is nearly zero at around 2km height and then rapidly increases as the height gets lower, and this behaviour looks unnatural. I suggest the authors check the quality flag for the PAZ data. If the data is flagged unreliable at these heights, I suggest not to show the PAZ data for such lower levels in the graph. Similarly for Figure 8b and Figure 12.
Typographic issues:
Equation (1) and elsewhere: delta phi should be typed with $\Delta \Phi" in LaTeX, not with "\Delta \0" or "\Delta \varnothing" as in the manuscript.
Line 175 and elsewhere: "vortexes" should be "vortices".
Line 177 "Even though": should be replaced with "Despite", or the sentence structure should be revised.
Lines 197, 249 etc. "presented": should be "present"
Line 198 "five schemes however, ...": Start a new sentence with "However", like "...five schemes. However, ..."
Line 269 "-70 degrees": Make it clear that this is Celsius.
Line 296 "contributed by": Probably should be "contributed to by".