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https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-18-1339-2025
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Quality assessment of YUNYAO radio occultation data in the neutral atmosphere
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This is a well-written paper and presents interesting results evaluating radio occultation (RO) observations from a constellation of eight small commercial satellites developed by Tianjin Yunyao Aerospace Technology. The eight Yunyao satellites produced about 12,000 RO occultations per day over the period May-June 2023. The quality of these observations are evaluated based on mean and standard deviations of Yunyao refractivities computed by comparing with radiosondes and two models, as well as the penetration rates (% of profiles reaching levels near the Earth’s surface). This paper is a potentially valuable contribution and should be published, but there are several areas where improvements are needed.
The paper says Yunyao plans to launch 90 satellites, which would provide an unprecedented number of RO profiles per day (probably greater than 150,000). The impact of this large number of RO profiles on NWP forecasts is expected to be very large, and hence this paper, which is the first to describe the quality of Yunyao RO observations, is important. The readers would be interested in the timeline for these launches and the likelihood that they will actually be launched. I know this is a hard question, but can the authors comment on this? Are the resources already obtained or are they merely a goal? Also, will all 90 satellites be launched into similar polar orbits, or will some be launched in low-inclination orbits? Some additional detail on the plans and their status would be useful.
The methodology for evaluating the Yunyao observations in this paper is sound and the statistics look comparable to those from other RO missions. However, the paper only evaluates refractivities, and most current NWP models assimilate bending angles (BA). The paper would be improved if it evaluated BA rather than refractivities. The authors should explain why they chose refractivities instead of BA. If possible, they should include at least some BA evaluations in the paper.
The paper does not describe or provide a reference on how the Yunyao data are processed. Early studies of Yunyao BA data, which were graciously provided by Yunyao for the Radio Occultation Modeling Experiment (ROMEX), showed that there were issues in the BA uncertainties around 12 km, thought to be associated with the transition from geometric to wave optics. There was another issue of large standard deviations and large negative biases below 5 km in the BA, which was apparently due to very strict quality control in Yunyao’s lower-level processing, where carrier phase measurements were removed from the excess phase data. There does seem to be large negative biases in the refractivities below 5 km in these results (Fig. 3); however, the refractivity error SD in these figures look reasonable. It would be good if the paper could summarize how the Yunyao data are processed and if the two issues above have been resolved in the current processing.
It would also be useful to include estimates of the error SD for the refractivity data up to 50-60 km, using the ERA5 and FNL model analyses as the other two datasets (extend Figs. 6-8 up to 50-60 km).
As the paper notes, the radiosonde 3CH uncertainty estimates are less than those of the RO, which is different from the results of Schreiner et al. 2020 and Rieckh et al. 2021. They attribute this difference to the fact that they used a double-differencing correction to the radiosonde data, which is plausible since Rieckh et al. and Schreiner et al. did not. They could test their proposed reason easily be redoing their Fig. 5 with uncorrected radiosonde data and present the results in a second part to Fig. 5.
The length of the paper is appropriate, and the quality of the figures overall is high, with a few exceptions (Fig. 2 and Fig. 4). Please see detailed comments on these figures.
In summary, this paper could be acceptable for publication after the authors consider the above comments. I look forward to seeing a revised version.
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Reference
Rieckh, T., J. Sjoberg and R. Anthes, 2021: The three-cornered hat method for estimating error variances if three or more atmospheric data sets-Part II: Evaluating recent radio occultation and radiosonde observations, global model forecasts, and reanalyses. J. Atmos. and Ocean. Technol., 35, https://doi.org/10.1175/JTECH-D-20-0209.1