Articles | Volume 17, issue 18
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-17-5619-2024
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UAV-based in situ measurements of CO2 and CH4 fluxes over complex natural ecosystems
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- Final revised paper (published on 26 Sep 2024)
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Summary:
This paper describes a study to conduct UAV surveys of GHG profiles (and emissions) using an interesting onboard-UAV GHG analyser in a test study in Jena and then in the Arctic to compare UAV-derived emissions with those from EC towers. The main outputs of the paper relate to the demonstration of the sensor-UAV platform and its uses, and the flux results themselves for e.g. Arctic ecosystems. It would be a valuable and interesting read to those following AMT and a growing community using UAVs for GHG emission work. It is a nice demonstration of a new system.
The paper is well written (thank you for no obvious typos) and well presented. There is careful attention to detail on instrument characterisation and calibration and a clear explanation of the study and its methods (except for flux uncertainties – see specific comments below). I recommend the paper for publication with some thoughts about the relatively minor and constructive comments below.
Specific comments:
A paper by O’Shea et al (below) looked at the spatial scalability of EC and chamber fluxes in the Arctic to 100s km scales using aircraft mass balance. May be useful to briefly discuss this in the intro when discussing Arctic scalability approaches.
O'Shea, S. J. et al.: Methane and carbon dioxide fluxes and their regional scalability for the European Arctic wetlands during the MAMM project in summer 2012, Atmos. Chem. Phys., 14, 13159-13174, doi:10.5194/acp-14-13159-2014, 2014.
Line 55: As written, it would indicate that this is an exhaustive list, but it is really only a few examples (so maybe add, “e.g.”). A recent paper that has calculated UAV emissions using GHG analysers onboard include the ref below.
Yong, H, et al, 2024: Lessons learned from a UAV survey and methane emissions calculation at a UK landfill, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.wasman.2024.03.025
Section 2.5 – The flux-gradient method is really interesting. Can you say anything about flux uncertainty here, i.e. can you quantify an uncertainty and what sources of error/bias may affect the fluxes calculated and why? You mention that only a small dataset is needed – this is true for the equations given in themselves, but doesn’t a small dataset mean you may not capture any uncertainty or variability? Can you offer more guidance here on the method and its limitations and thoughts on spatial and temporal sampling? I see later that there are +/- flux values in table 3, but it isn’t clear how these UAV flux uncertainties have been calculated – are they a statistical variability on many measured fluxes, or are they forward-modelled uncertainties on a single total flux? I see that the uncertainties are sometimes a factor 5 greater than the fluxes themselves (and always >100%) – can you comment on this? There is mention on line 357 that uncertainty is due to the small vertical gradients in GHG concs – but why? To know this, the reader needs info on how flux error is propagated and what it’s sensitive to. This needs quite a bit more explanation in the text, as uncertainty is equally (if not more) important than the flux itself (especially when it is higher than the flux itself as it is in this case).
Measuring winds on UAVs: I sympathise with the team and their woes with measuring winds using anemometers on UAVs. It is not easy. There is some recent work on this, where mounting the anemometer more than 2.5 rotor diameter has been shown to negate the flow field problem. It may be useful to briefly mention that winds remain a challenge but that there are ways to improve (this is also discussed in the Yong et al., 2024 paper referenced above).
Technical comments:
Line 84 – space between unit and quantity needed (e.g. “20m”) Check throughout.