Articles | Volume 18, issue 21
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-18-6493-2025
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Atmospheric sounding of the boundary layer over alpine glaciers using fixed-wing UAVs
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- Final revised paper (published on 13 Nov 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on amt-2024-174', Anonymous Referee #1, 05 Dec 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alexander Raphael Groos, 18 Jun 2025
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- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Alexander Raphael Groos, 18 Jun 2025
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AR by Alexander Raphael Groos on behalf of the Authors (13 Oct 2025)
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Review of “Atmospheric sounding of the boundary layer over alpine glaciers using fixed-wind UAVs” by Groos et al.
This manuscript describes the use of a fixed wing UAS to profile the lower atmosphere over a mountain glacier environment. Since data from only a single day is shown the results here are illustrative of the types of features that could be observed with a UAS field campaign but do not allow for any broader conclusions about glacial meteorology. While the results presented will be of interest as an illustration of the potential research applications of using a small UAS to study alpine glacier meteorology the presentation requires major revisions as described in the comments below. Once these major revisions are completed the manuscript will be suitable for publication in Atmospheric Measurement Techniques.
Major comments
A figure or series of figures illustrating the data processing described on pages 9 and 10 should be included to illustrate what the raw, unprocessed data from the UAS looks like and how that is modified prior to further scientific analysis. This figure(s) should show:
- unprocessed T profiles and the final smoothed profiles in 1 m bins.
- temperature bias between ascent / descent legs averaged to 1 m bins
- illustrate how lapse rates and inversion height are calculated by showing profile of T’(z). In particular I am interested in seeing how noisy the T’(z) profile is and what impact this has on identifying the height of the SBI.
- show RH, T and derived q profiles
- show profile or time series of original resolution roll rate and derived turbulence intensity proxy
These figures showing original data and derived data used in the results section will allow the reader to clearly see how the data was modified to allow for subsequent scientific analysis.
I found the color shaded time-height plots to be attractive but ultimately not very useful for understanding the features present in the UAS observations. I strongly suggest that the authors replace these figures with single plots for each each variable (T, q, wind speed) showing all descent profiles from all flights. By showing all of the profiles on a single plot it will make it easier to see details in the change in magnitude and vertical structure over the course of the day than the color shaded cross-sections currently shown. To help interpret the time evolution shown in this plot each descent profile should be shown in a different color (maybe ranging from blue to red with increasing time of day).
Showing profiles of wind direction, in addition to the wind roses shown in Figure 12, would make it easier for the reader to see the relationship between the switch from down glacier to up valley wind direction and differences in speed.
It would be useful to show a synthesis plot at a representative time showing profiles of all of the analyzed variables together to illustrate how the different variables and their profiles relate to each other.
What is the explanation for the nearly linear lapse rate for profile 1 down to the lowest observed height in the 16:05 sounding in Figure 6? This differs from all of the other profiles and is markedly different from the profiles at adjacent times. Is this an observational error or a real feature of the atmosphere?
Uncertainty in the observed quantities and the impact on interpretation of the results needs to be included. In particular, what is the uncertainty in the derived wind speed and direction and does this alter the interpretation of the results. In particular I am wondering about the rapid shift in wind direction and how this is handled if the spiral path used to calculate wind speed and direction spans both down and up valley wind directions. Does this account for the low wind speed at the height of the change in wind direction (i.e. it is an artifact of how the wind is derived rather than a true feature of the wind profile?).
Minor comment
Lines 110, 123: Figure 2 should be figure 3