Articles | Volume 15, issue 23
https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-15-7171-2022
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In situ particle sampling relationships to surface and turbulent fluxes using large eddy simulations with Lagrangian particles
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- Final revised paper (published on 13 Dec 2022)
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RC1: 'Comment on amt-2022-231', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 Sep 2022
- AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Hyungwon Park, 11 Oct 2022
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Hyungwon Park, 11 Oct 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on amt-2022-231', Anonymous Referee #1, 01 Oct 2022
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Hyungwon Park, 11 Oct 2022
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RC3: 'Reply on AC1', Anonymous Referee #2, 11 Oct 2022
- AC3: 'Reply on RC3', Hyungwon Park, 19 Oct 2022
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AR by Hyungwon Park on behalf of the Authors (19 Oct 2022)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (20 Oct 2022) by Jing Wei
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AR by Hyungwon Park on behalf of the Authors (15 Nov 2022)
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Title: Numerical experiments of in situ particle sampling relationships to surface and turbulent fluxes through Lagrangian coupled large eddy simulations
Authors: Park et al.
Summary:
Aerosol particle fluxes measured from past field campaigns or recorded in the literature show significant variations and inconsistent results. Different methods of flux calculations add additional uncertainty to the retrieved aerosol particle fluxes. Given those highly-varying results, one following question is: How representative are our point /moving-in situ measurements for the true aerosol particle fluxes over the sampled areas? This manuscript tries to tackle this fundamental problem by quantifying the uncertainty introduced by different sampling strategies, instrumentation, retrieval methods using the LES outputs as truth. Specifically, the authors investigate the following questions: Does the approach we adopted to sample the aerosol particle fluxes (i.e.., sampling areas, sampling instruments, retrieval methods, and stability of the PBL) have a significant impact on the final retrieved surface aerosol particle fluxes? If so, how large uncertainty is introduced by each step to the final retrieved surface fluxes? The author found that all these factors influence the final retrieved aerosol particle fluxes, with their associated uncertainties varying substantially.
There are so many exciting findings in their results. For example, they found that different directional alignments for flux sampling (stream-wise, span-wise, and diagonal direction, Figure 6) introduce different uncertainties to the estimated aerosol particle fluxes (Figure 8). Such information is extremely useful when planning a future field campaign.
Besides the authors’ comprehensive answers to the fundamental questions mentioned above, the more significant merit of this manuscript is that they provide a general framework to test new measuring techniques, sampling strategies and their related uncertainty quantification. Such a framework is of great value for future field campaigns, both in achieving the scientific goal of those campaigns and reducing human resources and cost.
It is a pleasure to read such a comprehensive study, I recommend a minor revision for this paper.
The only moderate problem that I found is that the URL to their code repo seems not correct. The authors might need to replace it with the correct one.
Below is a list of minor to moderate comments identified in the current manuscript.
Recommendation:
Minor revision
General comments:
Specific comments:
In Figure 8, we generally see the uncertainty grows with height. For example, Figure 8(c)-(d) shows shapes of upside-down triangles. Figure 9 shows the inferred surface fluxes from Figure 8 by using Equations (6)-(7). In Figure 9(c)-(d), the uncertainty shapes are no longer upside-down triangles. In Figure 9(c), the level with maximum uncertainty is now at \frac{z}{z_{inv}} = 0.7. Can you explain why this is the case? Same question for Figure 9(d).
Technical corrections:
L383: “A common technique in field measurements, an ogive curve O_g_{wc}(f_0) represents a running integral…”: broken sentence?